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Some names have been changed to protect the victim and the incomptent, not that they deserve it.

 

In August 2024 I contacted Aptia in order to have my Gxxxxx Rxxxxxx pension transferred from Aptia UK into my AMP pension scheme in New Zealand. Aptia insisted upon sending lots of forms to me via snail mail rather than email as I had requested. They also sent the first of many “Rebranding” notifications and information regarding scammers. It’s ironic as Aptia have displayed the traits of scammers in that they have wasted much of my time and money and are currently holding over £xxx,xxx of my money and are refusing to give it back.

I also note that all correspondence form Aptia is anonymous. There’s no name or signature, just the “Aptia Team”. It makes following up very difficult and allows Aptia staff to fail to take ownership or responsibility. Aptia instructed me to upload the documents using their website. There was no upload feature on site, it did not work.

After chasing Aptia, on 16th September 2024 Aptia wrote to me stating that they were calculating the transfer value. Additional copies of the rebrand and scammers notifications were sent to me.

On 19th September 2024 I received yet another scammers notification. For the first time I requested that Aptia stop sending me rebranding and scammer notifications and correspond via email.

On 20th September 2024 I received a pension valuation of £xxx,xxx.xx. I made it clear that I want to proceed with the transfer. I was given more forms to fill in. Once again, the Aptia website was not working and I found an alternative method of returning the completed forms.

Aptia then stated that they do not have a pension in my name and tried to halt proceedings. This was unbelievable as Aptia had already provided forms for me to fill in pre-populated with my details. This is when alarm bells started ringing and I suspected Aptia of being scammers themselves. Their behaviour certainly suggests a less than trustworthy organisation and TrustPilot echoes that with an 88% one-star rating.

I lodged a complaint with Aptia and received an apology, however Aptia did nothing regarding the requested pension transfer.

More time passes and Aptia are asking for yet more documentation. During November / December 2024 I supplied Aptia with:

·       NZ Retirement Trust Transfer of UK Soured Funds Form.

·       NZ Retirement Trust Statement showing my NZ Pension.

·       NZ Retirement Trust – AMP Funds QROPS

·       A copy of my Rates bill as proof of address and residency verified by a solicitor.

·       Two Tower Insurance bills as further proof of address and residence.

·       Six bank statements showing my salary.

·       A copy of my passport verified by a solicitor.

·       Six pay slips showing pension deductions.

·       A letter as confirmation of employment by an NZ Ministry.

·       Transfer Advice Confirmation Letter from my trusted financial advisor of more than twenty years.

·       A transfer request and discharge form for Gxxxxx Rxxxxxx Pension Plan.

·       AMP UK Pension welcome letter.

·       AMP Receiving Scheme Warranty.

·       HMRC Qualifying Recognised Overseas Pension Scheme form.

·       HMRC Qualifying Recognised Overseas Pension Scheme notification.

·       HMRC Qualifying Recognised Overseas Pension Scheme Business Compliance.

Aptia then wasted more time confirming the transfer currency.

Finally on 19th December 2024, Kermit of Aptia stated that Aptia have everything they need to proceed. I requested a date at which the transfer would be complete. This request was ignored.

From: Kermit (Aptia)
Sent: 19 December 2024 02:52
To: Innocent Victim
Cc: Gonzo (Aptia) Miss Piggy (Aptia)
Subject: Innocent Victim (Transfer)

Dear Innocent Victim, 

I can advise that we now have the information required and will be processing the case shortly. 

We will correspond further accordingly, please let us know if you have any queries. 

Thanks 

Kermit
Transfer Prevention
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www.aptia-grp.com
Postal address: Aptia, A Very Special Corner of Hell.

This turned out to be yet another Aptia lie. On 28th December 2024, Aptia sent yet more correspondence via snail mail and stated that they did not have all they need to proceed.

On 28th December 2024 Miss Piggy of Aptia confirmed that Kermit of Aptia had lied. Aptia stated that they wanted a letter of advice from a UK based financial advisor that knows nothing about my financial situation. I regarded this as yet another pathetic excuse to block the transfer as previously Gonzo of Aptia had indicated that my trusted financial advisor of more than twenty years doesn’t need to be FCA registered, and proof of employment would be sufficient.

From: Gonzo (Aptia)
Sent: 20 December 2024 03:34
To: Trusted Financial Advisor
Cc: Innocent Victim, Kermit, Service Delivery Prevention
Subject: PP/ Transfer Out- Innocent Victim - JLTxxxxxxxx
Importance: High

Trusted Financial Advisor

We have been provided your letter dated 13 December 2024 confirming you have provided the member with Financial Advice in regards to their proposed transfer of benefits from the Gxxxxx Rxxxxxx Pension Plan to AMP New Zealand Retirement Trust.

We are in the process of finalising the transfer, however, when we have performed our checks to verify you and your company are registered on the FCA Register no results are coming up with the FCA reference you have provided (xxxx/xxxxx).  I should be grateful if you would urgently provide us with the correct FCA reference in order that we may check the FCA register and finalise the members transfer. 

If you are not FCA registered, the Pensions Regulator has stated that the employing firm must provide written confirmation from a Senior Manager that the you work for their firm. If this is the case, please therefore arrange to provide this confirmation as soon as possible, which we must have before that transfer can proceed. 

Regards
Gonzo
Transfer Prevention Manager
www.aptia-grp.com
Postal address: Aptia, A Very Special Corner of Hell.

I now have Kermit stating that Aptia have everything they need to proceed, Gonzo stating that proof of employment is required from my NZ based financial advisor to proceed and Miss Piggy stating that I need a letter of advice, that will not in any way influence my decision, from a UK based financial advisor that I’ve never met and will not be as comprehensive as the advice I have already taken. Aptia’s incompetence has led three of their staff to contradict each other. Out of desperation and wanting to get this stressful, time consuming and expensive fiasco over with I asked Aptia to recommend a way forward. They bluntly come back with “We lied again, you need to supply a letter from a UK based financial advisor”.

I contacted :

·       NZ Britannia

·       Chase de Vere

·       Experts for Expats – Two separate contractors.

·       Pension Help

None of the above were able / willing to supply the alleged “Letter of advice”. One of them indicated that Aptia had such a bad industry wide reputation that dealing with them was to be avoided at all costs.

Several times during this process I asked Aptia to provide details of someone that could provide this meaningless letter. They ignored my requests. I asked Aptia to suggest an alternative such as the one mentioned above regarding my NZ based financial advisor letter of employment. As I have come to expect, Aptia ignored this request too.

On multiple occasions I asked Aptia how this preposterous situation could be resolved, they stated that they would refer the matter to the trustees. I made it clear that the trustees must be given the full information regarding Aptia’s incompetence and that they must produce a workable solution. Aptia’s response was to say “No transfer, case closed”.

During this process Aptia have lied, delayed, sent me to a defective website, ignored my requested, wasted a great deal of my time and money and then shut down my transfer request. I’m bitterly disappointed and seek a path forward that will see MY pension transferred to AMP ASAP.

Earlier this week my legal representative read through all of Aptia’s contradictory ramblings and is now challenging them regarding Gonzo’s comment that the useless “Letter of advice” does not need to be from a UK based financial advisor nor FCA member. I have since written to Miss Piggy twice and surprise, surprise, no response.

I have lodged a complaint with my ex-employer that set up the pension regarding Aptia’s incompetence and another with the Pensions Ombudsman. My lawyer will be seeking a response from Aptia too. She’s not going away. 

The latest update is that after ten months of tolerating Aptia's lies, deceit and incompetence my lawyer has fianlly found a UK based FCA that's willing to work with them. I'm guessing it'll be their first and last time. I have requested that the muppets supply a new expiry date to the FCA. Aptia's chairman wrote back, ignoring my request and accused me of being rude. What a cheek. It's the second time he's done this. I'll ask that a link to the Institue of Director complaint process be added to the useful contacts page. 

 

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